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That's the first time Space lost a Standard difficulty match.  Interestingly, Alternate Reality is now the only team that's undefeated on Standard, despite not doing that well in the rest of the tournament.

That's really interesting, once I finish I'll take a look at how different teams did on different difficulties to see if there were other interesting trends.

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I’m sure there will be a lot of interesting notes from all of these games. 


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Another strange thing is that Revo-Corp actually has a better record on Advanced than on Standard.

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F5: 99/21
PW: 91/29
DW: 88/32
VG: 99/21
AR: 94/26
RC: 96/24
SP: 106/14
NT: 104/16

 


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Round 121 Results: Tough battle, but all teams win in the end.

Round 122: Advanced Spite in Dok'Thorath Capital.

 

Akash'bhuta total: 30 wins - 2 losses.

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F5: 100/21
PW: 92/29
DW: 89/32
VG: 100/21
AR: 95/26
RC: 97/24
SP: 107/14
NT: 105/16


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Round 122 results: All teams win. Five of them manage to do so without Spite flipping.

Round 123: Standard Chokepoint at Fort Adamant

 

Spite totals: 31 wins - 1 loss

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F5: 101/21
PW: 93/29
DW: 90/32
VG: 101/21
AR: 96/26
RC: 98/24
SP: 108/14
NT: 106/16

How fitting that we have a Chokepoint fight at Fort Adamant.


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Round 123 Results: All teams win.

Round 124: Ultimate Baron Blade at Mobile Defense Platform. (Last playable round other than OblivAeon).

 

Chokepoint totals: 22 wins - 10 losses.

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F5: 102/21
PW: 94/29
DW: 91/32
VG: 102/21
AR: 97/26
RC: 99/24
SP: 109/14
NT: 107/16

Two rounds left huh?  That means we have a few places confirmed
1st Space
1st or 2nd Nature
3rd or 4th F5 and VG
5th Revocorp
5th or 6th Alternate Reality
7th PW
8th DW


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If OblivAeon is done I'm curious what stipulations you have since the amount of variants you have between all these teams is not the same. 
 

So excluding OblivAeon mode at worst Dark Watch has a 73% win rate compared to the potential best of team space at 88% (rounding down for both).


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Round 124 Results:

Wins: Freedom Five, Void Guard, Alt. Reality, Space, and Nature

Losses: Prime Wardens, Dark Watch,  Revo Corp.

Round 125: Standard Oblivaeon, more details to follow in follow up post.

 

Baron Blade total: 27 wins - 5 losses.

 

Still to come:

Challenge and Ultimate Trickster Kismet, when released.

4 rounds each of Challenge and Ultimate Vengeance, when released

All difficulties of Oblivaeon (Challenge and Ultimate waiting on release)

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How Oblivaeon will work.

1. I'll use the same shield for all teams for each difficulty - choosen at random, but with no repeats, such that 4/5 will be used between the 4 difficulties... unless Oblivaeon's Challenge rule ends up involving multiple shields.

2. Environments will be choosen at random with no repeats... Time Cataclysm must be used as one of the 20 environments since it will have 1 less use than the other environments once the remaining 10 non-oblivaeon battles are completed.

3. The 5 environments selected for each battle will be used in order.

4. Each team has been assigned 20 thematic backup heroes to be used in order (as eligible). The backup heroes were assigned by assigning each team all variants of their heroes first in release order, and then populating the rest based on theme using each variant exactly once (except Completionist Guise who will only be used for team Nature). Also, I avoided repeats of the same hero's variant on any team other than its own. If I run out of thematic backups I'll start hitting the random button.

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Round 125: Standard OblivAeon - Shield: The Ceaseless Ruin

Environments: Time Cataclysm, Fort Adamant, Tomb of Anubis, Rook City, Celestial Tribunal

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Posting Results individually due to the length of these fights.

 

Nature Wins. All Scions defeated. 3 environments lost. 14 incapacitated heroes.

Final heroes: PW Haka, PW Tempest, Dr. Medico, DW Harpy, Absolute Zero.

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Interesting they won but with none of their original team or even second team intact.  


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Revo Corp wins.

5 Scions defeated (4 plus a flipped Voss). 3 heroes incapacitated. 3 environments lost (all environment 2's... Time Cataclysm made it to the end).

 

Final team: Luminary, AH Stuntman, FS Parse, F6 Unity, Benchmark.

 

Note: After repeated failing to take out the shield. Oblivaeon destroyed 3 environments in 2 rounds the heroes won the game by defeating Oblivaeon's second side  third side, and Voss in only 8 hero turns.

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Not counting OblivAeon here buuuuuut~
F5: 103/21
PW: 94/30
DW: 91/33
VG: 103/21
AR: 98/26
RC: 99/25
SP: 110/14
NT: 108/16

I'm gonna handle the OblivAeon stuff a bit differently here.  First number is OblivAeons Phases, second is Scions beaten (not counting voss), third is enviroments destroid, last is heroes incapped.

RC: Win 4/4/3/3
NT: Win 3/10/3/14


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I should have specified; Voss flipped in the Nature match as well so it would be 4/9/3/14.

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Prime Wardens Win.

4 Scions defeated, 8 heroes incapacitated, 2 environments lost (Fort Adamant, Tomb of Anubis)

 

Final team: DC Argent Adept, Requital Captain Cosmic, PW Fanatic, Eternal Haka, Freedom 6 Tempest.

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PW Win 3/4/2/8
RC Win 4/4/3/3
NT Win 4/9/3/14

Funny how second to last place managed to win with only two enviroments blowing up.


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Alt Reality wins.

 

4 Scions defeated, 5 hero incapacitations, 1 environment destroyed (Time Cataclysm)

 

Final Team: Greatest Legacy, Dark Visionary, Omnitron-U, BoT Chrono-Ranger

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Missingno wrote:
Funny how second to last place managed to win with only two enviroments blowing up.

I also think to some account the major difference in playing all these other games and going into OblivAeon. So I’d expect the first time playing it again might require some relearning of what needs done. Add on that for Nature they encountered Voss which adds more time for things to go possibly wrong.


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Space wins.

6 Scions and flipped Voss defeated. 3 heroes incapacitated. 1 environment lost (Time Cat)

Final team: Captain Cosmic, The Sentinels, Extremist Sky-Scraper, KNYFE

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PW Win 3/4/2/8
AR Win 3/4/1/5
RC Win 4/4/3/3
NT Win 4/9/3/14
SP Win 4/6/1/3


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Dark Watch wins (with a major comeback after an awful start).

10 Scions defeated (Voss didn't flip). 6 hero incapacitations. 3 environments destroyed (Time Cat, Tomb, Rook City).

 

Final team: Rook City Wraith. DW NightMist, DW Setback, DW Mr. Fixer, DW Harpy.

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I'm assuming Voss didn't flip because Fixer had some enormous irreducible damage heading toward him.    Going through all the Scions I'm surprised there weren't more incaps.  


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Powerhound_2000 wrote:
I'm assuming Voss didn't flip because Fixer had some enormous irreducible damage heading toward him.    Going through all the Scions I'm surprised there weren't more incaps.  

Fixer managed to land a hit with Riveting Crane in play. Oblivaeon was on side 1 so there wasn't much benefit to fighting him or other Scion so in the 1 round opening Fixer created I focused on Voss and did 30ish damage to him. The remaining damage came from Oblivaeon himself and Borr the unstable over the course of the destruction of both Tomb of Anubis and Rook City in the same turn (all heroes were present but immune thanks to True Hero in the end). That turn was the major turning point in the game since it eliminated all the Scions but left no backup environments and OnlivAeon gained 10 devastation tokens since no heroes took damage from Oblivaeon's end of turn effect or the Oblivaeon Shield.

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DW Win 3/10/6/3
PW Win 3/4/2/8
AR Win 3/4/1/5
RC Win 4/4/3/3
NT Win 4/9/3/14
SP Win 4/6/1/3


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Void Guard wins!

7 Scions defeated (including an unflipped Voss). 2 environments destroyed (Fort Adamant, Time Cataclysm). 1 hero incapacitation.

Final team: Dr. Medico, Road Warrior Mainstay, The Idealist,  Writhe.

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Freedom 5 loses. I misplayed Subzero Atmosphere twice thinking it would effect the Oblivaeon turn but either it doesn't or I encountered a bug.

Lost on phase 2.

4 environments destroyed.

9 Scions defeated.

9 heroes incapacitated.

Shield flipped but not removed.

 

Edit: Final heroes: Young Legacy, F6 Bunker, F6 Wraith, F6 Tachyon,  F5 Absolute Zero.

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I'm not sure SubZero Atmospehre is a great play against OblivAeon in general especially with the Battle Zone stuff.  As to whether you had a bug or not you could send Feedback to Handelabra but based off what only a bit of info I can't say one way or the other about what happened.


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Powerhound_2000 wrote:
I'm not sure SubZero Atmospehre is a great play against OblivAeon in general especially with the Battle Zone stuff.  As to whether you had a bug or not you could send Feedback to Handelabra but based off what only a bit of info I can't say one way or the other about what happened.

I tried to send a bug report but got an error for some reason. I will try again later from my PC. Assuming it does affect Oblivaeon's turn it's useful specifically for getting rid of the shield as what makes that shield so tough is Oblivaeon can incap your heroes or make you move zones before you get to hos end of turn phase.

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Round 126: Advanced OblivAeon at:

Maerynian Refuge

Ruins of Atlantis 

Realm of Discord 

Freedom Tower 

The Block

 

Shield: The Source of Foes

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Alternative Reality loses. Man, Advanced Oblivaeon is HARD.

8 scions defeated. 5 hero incapacitations. 4 environments lost.

Loss on phase 2, shield still in play.

Final team: Black Spot La Comodora,  Dark Visionary, Greatest Legacy, BoT Chrono-Ranger

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Void Guard loses. Unfortunately I hit a game breaking bug and (literally) couldn't continue, but trust me it was going to be a loss.

I was still on the front of the Shield... 1 environment lost but about to lose a second, 9 heroes incap'd. 1 Scion defeated.

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F5 Loss 1/9/4/9 Shield Flipped
PW Win 3/4/2/8
DW Win 3/10/6/3
VG Win 3/7/2/1
AR Win 3/4/1/5
RC Win 4/4/3/3
NT Win 4/9/3/14
SP Win 4/6/1/3

---Advanced---
VG Loss ?/?/4/?
AR Loss 1/8/4/5

Doctor Medico is very good at keeping heroes alive if he doesn't get squished.


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Prime Wardens Lose.

4 Environments destroyed. 5 hero incaps. 6 Scion defeated. Techically lost on phase 2 with the shield still in play.

Final Heroes: AA, PW CC, Redeemer Fanatic, Eternal Haka, PW Tempest

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F5 Loss 1/9/4/9 Shield Flipped
PW Win 3/4/2/8
DW Win 3/10/6/3
VG Win 3/7/2/1
AR Win 3/4/1/5
RC Win 4/4/3/3
NT Win 4/9/3/14
SP Win 4/6/1/3

---Advanced---
PW Loss 1/6/4/5 Shield fully active
VG Loss ?/?/4/?
AR Loss 1/8/4/5 Shield fully active

Jeez, teams are sturggling with the sheild it seems.


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Missingno wrote:
Jeez, teams are sturggling with the sheild it seems.

Yeah, the major issue's the teams have been facing are:
-The extra Aeonmen mean more Aeon locus will be destroyed and mean more OblivAeon deck plays. This led to me seeing Temporal Fractures every game giving me 1 less round.
-The ordering of Oblivaeon's start of turn effects are super inconvenient. First the countdown ticks down (so even if you've cleared the Aeonmen with a round to spare you will still fail. Second the Shield is checked. Third the environment destruction occurs (meaning if Aeon Master is defeated this way you already missed the timing for the shield check). At the end of his turn Oblivaeon will play more Aeonmen in both zones so its tough to get another chance.

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Yeah Source of Foes is certainly the hardest shield to deal with.  


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Loss for space. Phase 2, Shield flipped but not removed. 4 environments lost, 12 heroes incapacitated, 5 Scions defeated.

 

Final heroes: Omnitron-X, SS Tachyon (incap), Chrono-Ranger, Scholar of the Infinite (incap)

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Revo Corp Loses. OblivAeon with 56 HP on Phase 2, shield successful removed.

4 environments destroyed, 13 heroes incap'd, 4 Scions defeated

 

Final Heroes: Extremist SS, F5 Legacy, F5 Tachyon, F5 Bunker, RW Mainstay

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That’s still a major win to get that shield removed when no other team has done so. 


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F5 Loss 1/9/4/9 Shield Flipped
PW Win 3/4/2/8
DW Win 3/10/6/3
VG Win 3/7/2/1
AR Win 3/4/1/5
RC Win 4/4/3/3
NT Win 4/9/3/14
SP Win 4/6/1/3

---Advanced---
PW Loss 1/6/4/5 Shield fully active
VG Loss ?/?/4/? Shield ???
AR Loss 1/8/4/5 Shield fully active
RC Loss 1/4/4/13
SP Loss 1/5/4/12 Shield Flipped


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Nature Wins!!! (And does so by exploding Borr the unstable to land the final hit).

2 environment destroyed (Ruins and Realm)

6 Scions defeated (including Borr in that count)

5 hero incaps

Final heroes: Void Akash, Hunted Naturalist, Horus Ra, Scholar of the Infinite, Santa Guise

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Missingno wrote:
F5 Loss 1/9/4/9 Shield Flipped
PW Win 3/4/2/8
DW Win 3/10/6/3
VG Win 3/7/2/1
AR Win 3/4/1/5
RC Win 4/4/3/3
NT Win 4/9/3/14
SP Win 4/6/1/3
---Advanced---
PW Loss 1/6/4/5 Shield fully active
VG Loss ?/?/4/? Shield ???
AR Loss 1/8/4/5 Shield fully active
RC Loss 1/4/4/13
SP Loss 1/5/4/12 Shield Flipped

I wasn't clear in my original posts but Prime Wardens and Alt Reality did flip the shield, just didn't remove it entirely.

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Nature Wins!!! (And does so by exploding Borr the unstable to land the final hit).
2 environment destroyed (Ruins and Realm)
6 Scions defeated (including Borr in that count)
5 hero incaps
Final heroes: Void Akash, Hunted Naturalist, Horus Ra, Scholar of the Infinite, Santa Guise

Not only won but did much better than their fight on standard


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F5 Loss 1/9/4/9 Shield Flipped
PW Win 3/4/2/8
DW Win 3/10/6/3
VG Win 3/7/2/1
AR Win 3/4/1/5
RC Win 4/4/3/3
NT Win 4/9/3/14
SP Win 4/6/1/3
---Advanced---
PW Loss 1/6/4/5 Shield Flipped
VG Loss ?/?/4/? Shield ???
AR Loss 1/8/4/5 Shield Flipped
RC Loss 1/4/4/13
SP Loss 1/5/4/12 Shield Flipped
NT Win 3/6/2/5


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Freedom 5 wins thanks in large part to a very lucky Leaking Room (not often you get to say that).

2 environments lost (Atlantis, Realm)

2 heroes incap'd

5 Scions defeated (not including a flipped Voss)

 

Final heroes: Young Legacy, Bunker, RC Wraith, Tachyon, Absolute Zero

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