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Did they give you any information about the glass itself -- anything about how much force it would be expected to take to break?


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Arcanist Lupus wrote:

What happens if both teams were to choose the same player for the Nerd-off?  Would that person have just gone home without a fight?  If so, that seems like the best way to get rid of Matt.

I don't imagine so; they'd probably just take one team's second choise. It never actually happened, but I imagine they'd always want the quiz one way or another.

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 Also, speaking as someone who spent last summer breaking glass, you were way overthinking that challenge.  Glass, especially low quality glass, is extremely variable in it's impact resistance.  The drop-weight tester that I was using dropped weights from heights ranging from 2 cm and 30 cm, and I had some samples break at 2 cm, and some that refused to break at 30 cm, with no obvious differences between the samples.  

Well we didn't have much else to do in that time :P Seriously though, what they didn't show is me doing a bunch of maths to calculate the conditions at which it would hit the glass, and then going "...Eh. Then stuff happens." We guessed, basically.


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Did they give you any information about the glass itself -- anything about how much force it would be expected to take to break?

We had measurements, but nothing like that. That would have ben useful.


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The sense I'm getting is that the people making this show were kinda bastards. They were really digging to try to find something they thought was dramatic, funny, and/or interesting to portray and they had little or no qualms about lying to you or misrepresenting you.

 

ALSO, a lot of the show seems awfully ... hokey. There's a lot of very cool things in nerd culture and they did a lot of cheesy things with them. It looks like some of the stuff you got to see or play with was legitimitely cool, but only some. What did you think?


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The sense I'm getting is that the people making this show were reality show producers. They were really digging to try to find something they thought was dramatic, funny, and/or interesting to portray and they had little or no qualms about lying to you or misrepresenting you. 

Fixed that for you.

 

The term "reality show" is an oxymoron.


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Yep.  This show has been one of the better ones, it hasn't actully portrayed anyone as soulless and evil yet.  You can always do that.  Doesn't seem like a stressful schedule either.  They have to sell the show without having enough time to really let you know the characters, so they play what angles are easiest.

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There was an episode of "This American Life" where they talked to a reality show producer, and she specifically mentioned doing things like taping over the REC light on cameras or faking a loud phone argument to get contestants to make frustrated faces. At sine point she described editing together a "feud" that never existed off camera.

So, this sounds pretty standard fir reality TV to me.

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arenson9 wrote:

The sense I'm getting is that the people making this show were kinda bastards. They were really digging to try to find something they thought was dramatic, funny, and/or interesting to portray and they had little or no qualms about lying to you or misrepresenting you.

 

 

ALSO, a lot of the show seems awfully ... hokey. There's a lot of very cool things in nerd culture and they did a lot of cheesy things with them. It looks like some of the stuff you got to see or play with was legitimitely cool, but only some. What did you think?

Yeah, there was a fair bit of bastardry, but some of the people were quite good. There is a lot of misrepresentation but I don't think anyone's portrayal is entirely unlike them.*

RE hokey, yeeaah... it does play on a lot of stereotypes and squanders some opportunities to do show off actual nerd culture (not to mention creating drama and focusing a whole bunch on that kind of thing), but at the same time it avoids a lot of the denigrating pitfalls it could easily end up in. It could be tonnes better, but also I think tonns worse.

It was hella fun, though.

 

 

*Matt is not as "evil" as shown, but he did play the game, and did kind of go in trying to be the villain.


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  *Matt is not as "evil" as shown, but he did play the game, and did kind of go in trying to be the villain.

 

I might be sympathetic. After all, I've played Diplomacy.

 

It's one thing to be crafty, self-centered, and persuasive, and quite another, however, to lie.


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Episode 7

 

 

Well, it was a good run.

 

One thing amused me, though.  When Matt was studying, one of the factoids he mentioned was that 'Humphry Davy discovered oxygen'.  This is amusing because although three different scientists can lay claim to the title of 'Oxygen Discoverer', Davy is not even close to being one of them.

 

Carl Scheele discovered oxygen by 1773, but never gets credit for anything*, Joseph Priestly discovered oxygen in 1774 but published first, and  Antoine Lavoisier coined the term 'oxygen' in 1777, finally discrediting phlogiston theory.  Humphry Davy was born in 1778.

 

 

*A Short History of Nearly Everything, by Bill Bryson puts it the best:

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Scheele... discovered eight elements - chlorine, fluorine, manganese, barium, molybdenum, tungsten, nitrogen, and oxygen - and got credit for none of them.  In every case, his finds were either overlooked or made it into publication after someone else had made the same discovery independently.  He also discovered many useful compounds, among them ammonia, glycerin, and tannic acid, and was the first to see the commercial potential of chlorine as a bleach - all breakthroughs that made other people extremely wealthy.

 


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I was hoping you'd be victorious but at least you'll show up for what I believe is the finale.   


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Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Episode 7  Well, it was a good run. 

Spoilers! Jeez!


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Oops, sorry.  I wasn't thinking.


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Final Episode http://youtu.be/HJmo1VXqacE

I'll only say that I hope if they do any more seasons they go lighter on the quizzes.  The final nerd off competitions should've been used in earlier nerd offs instead of just quizzes.  


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I realize that I'm an engineer, but I have a very different idea of what a 'brain-meltingly hard' math problem is.

 

Also, I'm really disappointed that we weren't able to see the potions riddle (which somehow they managed to present without mentioning Snape's Philosopher Stone Challenge, which boggles my mind) so that I could try my hand at solving it.

 

Also, bravo on calling out Kenny's attempt at manipulation (and bravo for Mark for being honest about his politicking)  

 

And yes, that chess match looked rather sad.


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Yeah I was hoping for a bit more information on the other competitions they had.   I feel if Curtis made it to that final Nerd off he would have had good chances to win.  


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Arcanist Lupus wrote:

I realize that I'm an engineer, but I have a very different idea of what a 'brain-meltingly hard' math problem is.

...

Also, bravo on calling out Kenny's attempt at manipulation (and bravo for Mark for being honest about his politicking)  

And yes, that chess match looked rather sad.

 

Yes, yes, and yes.

 

Curtis, I think you really gave a great showing, both in terms of what you achieved in the competitions and helping others in the nerd-off and in simply being an awesome person.

 

How do you feel about it?


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I thought last week it was a mistake for Kenny to pick Curtis and since it was more quizzing to be the final two I think it cost him.   


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That math problem was sad, I cubed was always a favorite of mine, but wow.

I suck at Chess, and I would have crushed that game.  Mark was the perfect example of the flaws of the show.  All he was good at were quizzes.

I think the show could be really good, esp. if they themed the shows better, like stick to the theme the whole episode, and vary the elimination challenges with some randomness.

Then the finale could use a challenge from each day's theme.

 

Overall it was a good show, and Curtis was one of the better characters on it.  I hope those friendships last after it ends, seemed like a lot of good people.

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arenson9 wrote:

How do you feel about it?

Weeelllll.....

On the one hand, it was a fantastically enjoyable three weeks. We did all sorts of weird and cool things, plus spending time with so many wonderful people was great. On the other hand, it was tiring having to be 'on' for sixteen hours a day, and having to deal with producers (not all of them, but enough) trying to manufacture drama and such. On the third hand, I have made a bunch of really good friends out of it, and watching in on television was incredibly surreal and entertaining.

As for the show itself? I enjoyed watching it, certainly. I think it was decent fluff television. Its view of geek culture is a bit reductionist, certainly, but I think ultimately it's a net positive. Not that it didn't squander a lot of opportunities, but geekdom was genuinely celebrated rather than just mocked.

Finally, here's my favourite reaction to the finale: https://twitter.com/hannahbanana484/status/638062968022921216


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BlueHairedMeerkat wrote:

 

arenson9 wrote:
How do you feel about it?

 

We did all sorts of weird and cool things... On the third hand

Wow... You really did do some weird things. Where exactly did you get your third hand placed?

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Wow... You really did do some weird things. Where exactly did you get your third hand placed?

The United Kingdom, more evolved than the US.


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I think I'm evolving right now, as it happens. Yep, that's it just there, just grew an additional appendix. It's completely useless, but I might want a spare in case I ever have to have the other one out and I miss it being there. Strangely enough, it also works as a metaphor for the UK in the modern age yes

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It's been fun following along. Thanks a bunch for sharing this.


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Thanks as well BlueHairedMeerKat.  Now I'll read your posts from now on with your voice in my head.  


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Powerhound_2000 wrote:

Thanks as well BlueHairedMeerKat.  Now I'll read your posts from now on with your voice in my head.  

This.  So much.

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Does that mean that if I type 'it's so pretty, it's so pretty'...


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They really liked that quote, didn't they?


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BlueHairedMeerkat wrote:

Does that mean that if I type 'it's so pretty, it's so pretty'...

Yes, it does.


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